Tuesday, June 10, 2014

Dialogue with Government, Political Opposition and/or Movements ?

I wish to say that Modi's victory is not the most important feature of these elections. The most important feature is the empty space that has resulted due to strictly fractured opposition. It seems to us that the cause of both, Modi/BJP emerging victorious and a fractured opposition, lies mainly in the disturbance created in Indian politics by the Anti-Corruption Movement and the rise of Aam Admi Party (AAP). It seems that a new stage has been inaugurated at the Center and what occupies the empty space referred to above is most likely to determine the future course of Indian politics and whether and to what extent it is going to attend to the needs of people's world, the world of lokavidya samaj. It is understanding of some of these things that will help shape LJA strategies in times to come.

We can start with the assumption that Indian polity, specifically the one shaping in and from Delhi, is not going to be uni-polar. Processes that target to fill the empty space at the Center presently created, shall become the other pole(s). There are three possibilities that present themselves : (i) Congress recovers to reasonable strength,  (ii) Regional or state level parties develop effective coordination among themselves and (iii) AAP charts a course to become much bigger and effective than it is presently. Long arguments can be constructed in favour of one or the other in terms of both the possibility and desirability, but these two may often be at odds with each other. Although in the case of Congress many of us may find it both not possible and not desirable, but in the second case many of us may think that it is desirable but may not see how it can happen in light of what has been happening on that front for long now, these elections included. The case of AAP is interesting. Talking to many in this period of about three weeks since election results have come, the considered views on both the possibility and desirability of AAP gaining strength are highly divided. There are those who think that the political disturbance will continue, AAP or no AAP, and that is what is important for lokavidya samaj to continue its search of new bases of a people oriented political imagination. And there are those, who see that the rise of AAP signals strengthening of Delhi based politics which would have serious negative impact on regional politics, where actually politics ought to reside. Then there are those who think that AAP is a long term proposition and it is not necessary that AAP remain an outfit with command based in Delhi, it can also grow into a federal formation and perhaps there are some indications of this in election results and what has been happening since then. The LJA concern chiefly ought to be how to engage on its terms with the processes that shape to fill the gap created in opposition. And let us not forget that LJA is a Knowledge Movement, not a political movement. I am afraid that if it harbors dreams of becoming political then we may not be able to build the Knowledge Movement of the people that we have set out to do with LJA. न माया मिलेगी न राम।

I have chosen not to argue issue by issue with Kaul's propositions. It is not a question of liking or not liking Modi. The policies have started unfolding - 100% FDI in defense production, internal security on high priority, almost unconditional environment clearances for large projects, 100 cities of world level facilities, bullet trains, etc. Is not lokavidya samaj going to pay the price of all this? We have always held the view that seeing BJP as a communal party was and is the interest of certain classes in this society, whereas in our understanding it has over the period become the party of big business in India, partly competing with and  displacing Congress from that coveted position. 'Communalism' and 'Secularism' seem to represent the two tactics of Indian Big Business, either way they are at the helms of affairs. One can engage in detailed debates on what Congress, BJP/Jansangh, Communists, Socialists and the regional politics before and after Mandal have done to the people of this Nation. It is important but one cannot talk about all history all the time. If anything is strictly different about this election then it is this that Modi and the organizations that backed him actually mopped up the possible advantage resulting by the unsettlment of polity created by AAP. AAP raised issues that were bigger than it could handle and so those who had the organization to do it, did it. The entire election scene was permeated by the issues, methods and discourses unleashed by the Anti-Corruption Movement and the AAP, the victories and the defeats all owe it to that.
This is a sign of new times. The Indian phenomenon may be understood better if we take the context of what has been happening in countries like Tunisia, Egypt, Turkey, Thailand, Syria, Libya, Ukraine, from 2008 to the writing of this post. We should also be able to see what is common in all these and not get bogged down in the specifics of each case however important they may be for immediate political development in these places. For last two decades new classes are shaping and are rising to prominence globally through appropriation of the economic and social command. They are asserting their way for their share in political command of society, so these disturbances and huge uncertainties.

I would tend to agree with Krishnarajulu in that we need to take the ideas of the Multai Declaration to the public realm.
In brief it is :
  • To live by lokavidya is the birth-right of every human being. So stop all displacement.
  • Hierarchy in the world of knowledge is totally unjust. Those who live by lokavidya must get as much return as the modern educated do. 
  • Everybody must have an equal share in national resources - electricity, water, finance, health and education. 
  • Local society must control local systems-governance, market, resources, all. 
  • There should be a media school in every village. This is a nav-nirman effort to enable the village youth in the representation, communication and articulation of the standpoint of the village, the lokavidya standpoint. 
These ideas constitute our terms for dialogue with politics. For Multai Declaration see blogpost dated 21st January 2014 ( Link : http://lokavidyajanandolan.blogspot.in/search?updated-max=2014-01-26T01:07:00%2B05:30&max-results=2&start=2&by-date=false ). Also see the small Hindi booklet published on the occasion of the Multai Conference . Link:http://vidyaashram.org/papers/Jansangharsh_Unity_%20Multai_Conf.pdf 

The process of this dialogue has been started from the Varanasi Meeting on 7-8 June. We should be able to report it on this blog by tomorrow.  The meeting in Nagpur on 28-29 June provides occasion for many of us to meet and discuss at length the new challenge.

Sunil Sahasrabudhey
Vidya Ashram, Varanasi

Sunday, June 8, 2014

LJA and Modi

Friday, June 6, 2014

The Debate Continues

[ With Kaul responding with vigor, there are more responses. However these are by regular contributors to this blog. Welcome as they are, we look forward to wider participation. So this is to request all who are seeing this blog to come in with their views. This debate, as Krishnarajulu suggests, is likely to influence in important ways the future course of LJA. 
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Mohini Mullick , Delhi ,  June 5, 2014 

I want to come in on one or two points of the debate that has started on the assumption that it was largely the the LokVidyadhar samaj  that voted Modi in. We must not forget that the 330+ seats of the NDA were won on 31% of the votes polled. The opposition was severely fractured. So the very premise  of Kaul's original  post is questionable. 
Two, let there be a serious effort to get the statistics of Gujarat's journey during the last 10 years and more. All kinds of figures were bandied about during the election. But some authentic information should not be impossible to get. On many social indices Gujarat we were told ranked very low.. A disinformation campaign carried out by highly skilled media managers--and I say this with some (grudging) admiration-- won the day. RSS pracharaks , highly disciplined and no doubt well paid, also started work along with Amit Shah months before polling in UP. Think of the astronomical sums spent by BJP on this election.
To believe that Modi will not want to do a top down job on India as he has done in Gujarat is a pipe dream.. That is why the sensex soared.
As  for MHRD, surely the agenda is clear to all. Wait for changes in NCERT, ICSSR and ICHR. Yes the Congress removed Chairpersons as well. Well, take your pick or work towards a third alternative. The point about Irani is her 2 different affidavits apart from suitability. On the latter, she is eminently suitable to carryout 'educational reforms'!
Leaving out comments on other points raised about LJA and science, for now.
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Lalit Kaul, Hyderabad, June 6, 2014

Before I respond to Amit’s take on RSS, I want to position myself in regard to RSS & CPM. From my childhood days I continue to have some kind of revulsion towards RSS & CPM for the reasons that I could not connect the discipline in RSS drill to the discipline of those individuals in their personal lives while interacting with the outside world to fulfil their needs and requirements of day to day life & in case of the CPM its very symbol personified violence for me which I always detested. It may sound very irrational, but that how it has been and that is what has kept me conscientiously avoiding any contact whatsoever with them.

Every political party has strived to keep caste based divisions intact and Mandal politics indeed sharpened the divisions. It was argued those days that ‘Mandal’ tends to provide a sense of empowerment for the different castes in that one amongst them could be ruling the society hitherto dominated by the upper castes; while acknowledging a possibility that this kind of politics may not accrue any benefit to these castes in terms of their socio-economic uplift. So the likes of Mayawati, Mulayam Singh, & Lalu Prasad came to hold the reign of power. This phenomenon, in my understanding, gave birth to coalition politics and ‘national parties’ got marginalized. No body, for example, can discount the sense of redemption of honour among SC community when Mayawati became the Chief Minister of as big a state as UP.

So RSS cannot do anything further in this direction. What indeed RSS, BJP & its affiliated organizations can do is to recognize that Modi achieved landslide victory because people chose to transcend divisions perpetuated in the name of caste, religion, and gender. The fact repeatedly acknowledged by none other than Modi himself. Hence a strategy to be evolved so that over a period of time the divisions become more & more blurred & that cannot happen by sheer sloganeering, but by adopting policies that truly embody inclusive growth. What is inclusive growth? RSS, et. al; have their own perceptions & definitions. Herein comes the role of LJA: M K Gandhi has to be invoked & LJA is competent and qualified to do it. M K Gandhi once said (I hope I reproduce it to best of my memory),” If a small country like UK had to colonize three fourth of the world for attaining prosperity, imagine if a country of the size of India had to adopt similar/ same philosophy (means) for its people’s growth and development, how many worlds would it have to colonize!” M K Gandhi’s analysis has indeed become prophesy.

Therefore LJA need to put across Modi that no matter what level of industrialization and concomitant automation (by whatever means) he may bring in, it is not going to encompass that 80% of the population that continues to be left neglected post independence; building of expressways & high rise buildings; growths in use of cement & steel cannot be an index of peoples’ growth & development. Here is where the importance of Lokavidhya can be put in the right perspective. Modi is not going to disappoint the big business, but Modi cannot afford to turn a blind eye and deaf ear to a new (unexpected) vote bank, if he wants to rule for 2-3 terms. Therefore LJA need to strategize how to put across to him the aspirations of Lokavidhyadhar Samaj based on their vidhya. Many channels at various levels in a state can be tapped; especially in UP, MP, Bihar where in my opinion LJA is proactive. It can also be attempted in other BJP ruled states.

A new concept of the existence of a multi-civilization society is to be put in to Modi’s head. Modi wants to rule; he may, in my understanding, one day show RSS et. el; their place, but may not dismiss the legitimate, reasonable, and genuine demands of his new found vote bank. Keeping 2019 in our minds & strategising for that; LJA need to expose the farce (!) of Modi, if indeed it is.

There is only one religion that does not believe in pluralism. Therefore Hindu bashing does solve the issue of pluralism. In any case, Modi cannot allow persecution of a religious group in a civilized dispensation. Modi may concentrate on (at least) minimizing terrorism within the country and that cannot be defined as being anti (some) religion. If India is a modern state, religious pluralism cannot become the reason for undermining its very existence. So long as we accept ‘modern state’, there is no other choice; the only counter to it is Lokavidhyadhar civilization where every individual contributes based on his/her vidhya & therefore transcends all divisions & distinctions. Civilization based on Lokavidhya has this inherent capacity to allow different religious communities to organize themselves as per the ‘rights & wrongs’ as decreed in their religious philosophies.

Modi understands that Muslims have indeed voted for him. BJP never had any strategy/ understanding on how to bring Muslims in to their fold. ‘Secular’ parties always succeeded in portraying BJP as the villain of the piece; yet this dumb party had no clue on how to get rid of this ‘anti Muslim’ tag slapped on them. It is Modi who won the elections; not BJP. Modi has been trusted by the voters of all hues, not the BJP; Modi is clever enough not to miss this opportunity on consolidation of Muslim votes. Muslims are a predominantly ‘Karigar samaj’; and honest ones at that; Modi is bound to be seen as doing something meaningful for the Karigar samaj. Any step taken by him in the socio-economic uplift of this samaj is only going to increase the faith of Muslims in him. Remember, it has been the Congress policy to encourage minority ‘intolerant’ sect of Islam; but there is a vast majority of Indian Muslims that follow Sufi Islam & Modi is intelligent enough to concentrate on them. LJA can also play a significant role in achieving this aim.
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K.K. Surendran, Pune, June 6, 2014

I am totally opposed to the Samaj developing a Modi centric development of its politics, even when that politics is yet to emerge and its leadership, when it does, may not be in the hands of LJA. Mahatma Gandhi, when he had ceased to have much political power was murdered for what? Datta Samant, even when he had lost his leadership, was murdered for his opposition to the sale of the Textile Mills Land in Mumbai. And what makes anyone so sure that the day Modi is against the complete displacement of tribal communities for the sake of efficient exploitation of India's natural resources, he won't be removed? The main attraction for 'development plank' is that it is the sign of good democracy; and the attraction for 'democracy' is to declare publicly that that you are not 'communist' /'socialist'. These are rather old , post WW-II positions, kept alive by the wars of the day.

Each time in any country, if in a reasonably normal situation a leader gets big majority ( and even Benazir's husband got it), people are supporting him through ballot or whatever, cutting across existing social divisions. That is sheer arithmetic. It does not prove sudden obliteration of various fault lines or caste divisions,or imaginations (sankalp). If I understand correctly, globalization is like gaining political independence for the global finance capital(ists).  In a definite sense they and their 'collaborators' are the only ones who are free. May be up to third neighbors on the relationship tree. LJA can 'sankalp' a different freedom, may be carry on a Cultural Revolution; but then, so also can the Buddhist monks. Sufi masters and church fathers can join too, if their 'sankalp' of heaven finds some match.
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B. Krishnarajulu, Hyderabad, June 6, 2014 

The point is- does the current 'space' created by the ascent of Modi riding on a 'development' agenda not provide an opportunity to take the main LJA demands(Multai declaration) to the centre stage of national politics?

I think it does. We need to formulate the modus operandi of doing this at Nagpur. The points raised by Kaul, Surendran and Amit are all very pertinent and have been in our minds for some time now.
We also need to kick-start a widespread discussion (and hopefully some activity) within Lokavidya Samaj about the perception of caste-hierarchy and possible directions of activity to bring about an equality-based unity.
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Thursday, June 5, 2014

एक नजरिया यह भी

कौल साहब के ब्लॉग पोस्ट से शुरू हुई बहस में शामिल होते हुए अपनी बातों को मैं कुछ बिन्दुओं के मार्फ़त रखने की कोशिश करुँगी। 
  1. नरेंद्र मोदी और  भाजपा को जिताने में लोकविद्या समाज की जिस मौन लेकिन सक्रिय भूमिका का तर्क दिया जा रहा हैं उससे सहमत होना कठिन है। अभी तक सभी बहुमत की सरकारें लोकविद्या समाज के वोट के बल पर ही सत्ता में आती रही हैं। भाजपा की वर्तमान सरकार का बहुमत से जीतना भी लोकविद्या समाज के वोटों के बल पर हुआ है क्योंकि लोकविद्या समाज इस देश की आबादी का 80 % से ज्यादा है। यह कोई लोकविद्या समाज की मौन क्रांति का सूचक नहीं लगता बल्कि भाजपा के उस नए अवतार का सूचक है जो संसदीय चुनाव के गणित और समाज के घटकों पर शासन करने का प्रचार व प्रबंधन करने में सफल हो गया है।  इस बार नयी बात यह है कि भाजपा मोदी के नेतृत्व में बड़े पूंजीपतियों का बड़े पैमाने पर समर्थन हासिल करने के साथ लोकविद्या समाज के वोट पाने में भी सफल रही है, जिसमें अभी तक कांग्रेस कुशल मानी जाती रही है। इस सरकार से पूँजीपति तबके को क्या मिलने जा रहा है यह तो देखा जा सकता है लेकिन लोकविद्या समाज को इस नयी सरकार से क्या मिलेगा यह तो अभी अँधेरे में ही है।                                                                                                                                                                                                
  2. लोकविद्या जन आंदोलन ( लोजआ ) यह मानता रहा है कि 2011 के बाद से राजनितिक माहौल में जो खुलापन आया है इसके लिए अन्ना हज़ारे का आंदोलन और बाद में केजरीवाल के नेतृत्व में  बनी आम आदमी पार्टी का निश्चित तौर पर योगदान रहा है। 'आप' ने राजनैतिक माहौल में इतनी हलचल तो पैदा कर ही दी की प्रमुख राष्ट्रीय दलों को 'आप' की रणनीति और मुद्दों में से कई चीज़ों का अनुकरण करना पड़ा। साफ़ तौर पर यह देखा जा सकता है कि प्रचार के दौरान धीरे-धीरे  मोदी के भाषणों में 'आप' की बातें समाहित होती गयी. 'आप' ने भ्रष्टाचार पर झाड़ू लगाने और अच्छे व चुस्त  प्रशासन को प्राथमिकता दी जो 12 मई आते-आते मोदी के भाषणों का अंग बन गए।  भाजपा ने अपने कई बुजुर्ग नेताओं को किनारे किया,  हिंदुत्व का मुद्दा फ़िलहाल पीछे धकेला  गया, चुनाव प्रचार का प्रबंधन नयी  प्रौद्योगिकी के बल पर और बहुत खर्च के साथ किया गया। नरेंद्र मोदी के भाषणों में उनकी सार्वजनिक छबि को एक उदार नेता के रूप में सामने लाया। हालांकि अमित बसोले जिन खतरों के प्रति आगाह कर रहे हैं उन्हें  नज़रअंदाज़ नहीं किया जा सकता क्योंकि भाजपा और रास्वसं का इतिहास भुलाया नहीं जा सकता।  लेकिन  कई नयी बातें नज़र आई हैं जो जताती है कि भाजपा का  नवीनीकरण हो गया है । कांग्रेस इस  मामले में पिछड़ गयी और पिछले 10 वर्षों में निरंतर  हर मोर्चे पर गिरती ही गयी। इसलिए कांग्रेस के पक्ष का भी वोट भाजपा की झोली में गया।        
  3. कौल साहब के कहने का संकेत शायद  इस ओर है कि लोजआ को राजनैतिक पहल लेने की और बढ़ना चाहिए और नयी सरकार से , सत्ता से, वार्ता  में उतरने की  तैयारी  करनी चाहिए। लोजआ यह  मानता है कि 'आप ' पार्टी के उदय से राजनीति में जो हलचल पैदा हो गयी है उससे सार्वजनिक माहौल में नए विचार, नए सृजन का मौका बन रहा है चाहे पार्टी फिलहाल बिखरती नज़र आ रही है। भाजपा ने इसी दौरान  खुद को नया किया है। लोजआ के लिए यह मौका किसी पार्टी विशेष को लक्ष्य कर नहीं देखना है बल्कि पूरे राजनैतिक माहौल में आई हलचल को लक्ष कर  देखना है और लोकविद्या-समाज के हित के  मुद्दों को लेकर लगातार राजनैतिक वार्ता को खड़ा करना है। लोजआ इस हलचल पर नज़र रखता है न कि भाजपा या मोदी पर या 'आप' पर और इस हलचल के बीच वह निश्चित ही एक नए राजनैतिक संवाद को खड़ा करने का सुनहरा अवसर देखता है।  'आप' पार्टी लोकविद्या-समाज के प्रति कोई सकारात्मक रुख नहीं रखती लेकिन एक नयी बहस को खड़ा करने की शुरुआत दे चुकी है।  लोजआ यह राजनैतिक संवाद भाजपा, कांग्रेस, 'आप', सपा, बसपा या अन्य किसी क्षेत्रीय दल से नहीं बल्कि पूरे राजनैतिक माहौल या व्यवस्था से करने का लक्ष्य रखता है। और हो सकता है कि इस संवाद से इनमें से कुछ पार्टियों को इससे कुछ मिले भी लेकिन अंततः लोकविद्या-समाज को ही फायदा होगा। 
  4. ऐसा राजनैतिक संवाद ही लोकविद्या-समाज का ज्ञान आंदोलन है।  लोजआ का शुरू से आग्रह रहा है कि यह एक ज्ञान आंदोलन है और लोकविद्या समाज की अगुवाई में इसे आकार लेना है तभी यह पूरे समाज की खुशहाली के रास्तों को खोलेगा, एक नयी राजनैतिक व्यवस्था की कल्पना की बुनियाद बनाएगा।   दूसरी बात यह है कि लोजआ का इतना बड़ा आधार भी नहीं है कि ये वार्ताएं अकेले के बल पर की जा सकें ।  लोकविद्या समाज के उन तमाम संगठनों, विचारकों, संघर्षकर्ताओं और इनके समर्थकों के साथ मिलकर ही यह ज्ञान संवाद और ज्ञान आंदोलन चलाना होगा।  वाराणसी में 7-8 जून और नागपुर में 28-29 जून की प्रस्तावित बैठकें इसी दिशा में हैं। 
चित्रा सहस्रबुद्धे 

Wednesday, June 4, 2014

Where-to Lokavidya Jan Andolan ?

On 19th May Lalit Kaul wrote on this blog under the title ' Silent Revolution : Courtesy Lokavidyadhar Samaj ' , outlining a strategy for Lokavidya Samaj in the present moment characterized by the complete majority in Lok Sabha achieved by BJP in 2014 General elections in the leadership of Narendra Modi, who now heads the Government of India as the new Prime Minister. Kaul has suggested in that post that Modi led BJP won because Lokavidya Samaj voted for them. So, the time is opportune for Lokavidya Samaj to present before Modi its needs to be fulfilled by the new government. He suggests that the LJA needs to take an initiative to start a dialogue with Modi & Co. with such an objective and if the government fails to respond, it must chalk out its own political strategy and prepare for 2019. Following are some responses to that post which were sent on an e-mail list. We have chosen to extract them from there and post here so that more people can join this debate, a debate which we think should be expanded.

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Avinash Jha,   Delhi,  20 May 2014

Could you give us some clue as to why Modi or his karyakartas would be interested in any agenda of lokavidyadhar samaj?
Is it because lokavidyadhar samaj voted for him? But so did the non-lokavidyadhar samaj.
Have you come across in any statement of Modi or BJP an awareness of lokavidyadhar samaj and their problems? Would Modi be open to the idea of equal right on natural and national resources, for example?
If you are just saying that now that he is in power let us communicate our demand to him and the BJP, then it is a different matter.
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Lalit Kaul,  Hyderabad,  20 May 2014

Had only Non-Lokavidhyadhar Samaj voted for BJP, it would not have got the majority that it got & Modi would not have been the most powerful P.M. since 1984. The credit solely goes to Lokavidhyadhar Samaj for BJP getting cognizance in Rural India. BJP has been transformed from an urban based party to a party of the masses. Therefore BJP & Modi have duties to be performed towards the samaj. Amit Shah's brilliance notwithstanding, the credit for transcending all imposed barriers and distinctions goes only to the Samaj. An honest introspection by BJP & Modi cannot loose sight of this fact. The Samaj has put total faith in Modi's promises and voted for him; it is in the prime interest of BJP & Modi to heed the requirements of the Samaj for leading a dignified life based on their science, technology, and philosophy of life. Modi wants to rule for next 15 years !!

We need to start on a positive note with Modi while at the same time continuously evaluating his response. The idea is not only to catapult the LJA to National level by communicating to the world that there exists a viable way of interacting with Nature & its resources without being a burden on it, but also to mobilize the Samaj with a political intent so that they are able to capture the political space due to Modi's failure to deliver. Modi needs to be approached with all the resources at command of LJA & not disposed off with contempt. In any eventuality it is only going to be a win-win situation for the Samaj & LJA, because there is nothing to be lost further, as on date.    

Karyakartas are our first level link with the high command. Planning can be done at various levels, where Rajnath Singh can be requested for a meeting under the banner of LJA & other associated social organizations. In UP Bihar MP & other places local BJP leaders can be got in touch to push LJA agenda, Varanasi & other associates within LJA do have this enormous capability to effectively articulate the needs of the Samaj & how it would tremendously ease the pressure on employment generation.

What is suggested is a political agenda & honest one at that for emancipation of the Samaj & for LJA and its role to become historic in modern India. LJA need to make impact at National level with all the backing that its karyakartas have in terms of struggle, articulation, understanding of socio-economic issues, etc. etc. Modi's failure is Samaj & LJA's golden chance ; Modi's positive response - in terms of gradual implementation of LJA agenda- is Samaj emancipation.

Why not give it a try! Life is after all an experiment!!
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Lalit Kaul,  Hyderabad,  20 May 2014

Further to the preceding mail. I want to add that if anybody has heard Modi in his election rallies, his interview to Arnob Goswami, his speech today in presence of BJP Allies & other senior leaders of BJP; one cannot miss the point that he has been addressing to the concerns of the samaj, not so explicitly as LJA, though. Perhaps that is what convinced the masses who broke away with all the traditions/ patterns of voting in the past and went whole hog with Modi. They have voted for Modi & not so much for NDA & much less for BJP; it is my understanding having followed him very keenly all through his campaign. My keenness was not due to so called 'Gujarat Model'. but the fact that he came from indescribably humble and poor family; so if his heart did not go out to the masses; whose else would! After Lal Bahadur Shastri he is going to be the first non-elite P.M. For me, those are his credentials.

LJA need to impress upon Modi that Lokavidhyadhar Samaj is not qualified to accept doles; it is qualified enough to become a forceful productive force in the sodio-economic dispensation of our country only if Science Technology and life styles are not looked through myopic vision. If it is conceded that a multi- lingual, multi- relgious, multi- racial country can also be multi-civilizational. That the Samaj need to be conceded as much space in the growth and development of Bharat/India as the westernized class within our country, if not more; because the Samaj based on its vidhya, that is self attained & self sustained, has tremendous potential to solve the problems of employment, poverty; caste , religion and sex based discrimination, because unbelievably huge mass of people would get engaged not only in productive activities but also in interactive ones. 

Modi cannot be expected to have as much understanding of the Samaj as the activists of LJA & the ingredients of Samaj. Therefore it is solemn duty of the LJA to bring these issues under the focus of Modi through his channels at various levels in as many states as possible.
LJA has to heard at highest level in the country & for that an effort with open mind is the imperative. If Modi fails, LJA & Samaj would be prepared to occupy space enough to matter in the power politics at Center. 
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Amit Basole ,   Mumbai,  31 May 2014 
I don't know if anyone saw Arnab Goswami's shout-fest a couple of nights ago, on the Smriti Irani issue. It was very interesting. The controversy over her appointment as HRD Minister pointed to the latent space lokavidya occupies in the national imagination. Does the minister in charge of education need to be formally educated? Apparently the answer to this question is not an unqualified, uncomplicated, “yes” even on the English-language news channels. Of course, part of it is the compulsive need to defend Modi at any cost. So the arguments being advanced in Ms. Irani’s defense are largely opportunistic. But they are nevertheless interesting. The principal arguments seem to be that formal education is not an indicator of ability, that the vast majority of the country is not college educated, hence their "knowledge problems" have nothing to do with going to college. In making this last point Shahid Siddiqui brought up weavers and metal-workers.  Ordinarily, the new middle classes that have backed Modi heavily are expected to be technocratic in their disposition and indeed, it is doubtful that those who are defending Ms. Irani on lokavidya grounds would similarly entrust the country’s economic development to a lokavidya-holder. Still, it is noteworthy when this penchant for technocracy is suspended...
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K.K.Surendran, Pune   31 May 2014

I think LJA must undertake an informed debate , NOT on the possible immediate future actions of Modi govt. and personalities in it, BUT on the last 10 years of Gujarat govt. strictly in terms of the indexes LJA adopts. What was done by Gujarat govt on the issues dear to LJA and the modalities adopted for doing? In Apke Adalat program Modi publicly stated that almost all ( 99.*%) villages of Gujarat has three things - clean drinking water, food, electricity.  If that is true. figuring out how much the 'development' of Gujarat is from the diamond merchants and Gujarati business men of Mumbai ( UK, USA, Honkong etc) and the poor ( enterprising) Gujarati's repatriation of cash from Africa, Middle East, Rest of India etc. should be important in understanding this 'development process'. How much of the illegal mining and trade in ores - coal, manganese,...- in the Maoist corridor is carried out by Gujarati and Marwari enterprising businessmen, often quite small men, may also help. If a poor CPM chief minister were to become PM and shouts to replicate the Kerala model of Education, Cleanliness and Health, Wage structure and Social equality in the country the pundits and media will have their last laugh- for very different reasons! So, in summary, if development took place in Gujarat in 10 years how does the Vidyadhar Samaj see it?  Do they want to reproduce it?

Also, it is clear that 'Administrative Reform' is perhaps a sure route to kill AAP's political ambitions. It may also be interesting to continue the LJA caste debate in the context of how Modi is using the name of Ambedkar - starting from the victory speech in Vadodara. I will not be surprised to next hear him say: That is the essence of Vivekananda's vision. As for corruption, it is very easy to get even with the middle class by pointing out that they are corrupt and should purify themselves - in house repairs, medical reimbursement, leave encashment, LTC and such things, and last but not least in every transaction of purchase of housing and land - even a small plot for building a house - paying upto five times in black money, not to any govt. official but among themselves! very much like the stock brokers doing it among themselves - the shares of some public sector companies went up as much as 70% in 3 days - from 16th to 19th May. 
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Lalit Kaul,  Hyderabad , 31 May 2014

In my opinion both Surendran and Amlt have made some reasonable points. However, having lived in Bengal for nearly eight years, I want to respond to Poor CPM Chief Minister.

CPM ruled for nearly four decades. What they achieved was systematic closure of all cottage industries. Inqlab Zindabad was the order of the day. DVC power corporation is a classical point in case. Generation capacity 1000 MW. Generation history 150MW! Inqlab Zindabad! Indira Gandhi made a political decision by putting her man Mr Sethi as CMD of DVC. CPM goons literally beat him to death. Post hospitalization he implemented his ways by isolating goons of Kyoto Basu. Generation went up to 850 MW!

I donot give a damn about what Marx, Lenin, Gandhi, Krishna, & other greats said or did. My problem with anybody & everybody, including myself, is that having taken a responsibility how it was shouldered. CPM & AAP failed people's expectations. If CPM had any ideology for socio economic development of people, other than violence, they should have at least tried to implement that. They did nothing except for perpetuating violence. The icing on the cake was handing over the most fertile tracts of lands to Tatas! 

I left Bengal in 1980 to return in 2009; only to the same hungry, half naked, emaciated Bengal! 

So much for the poor Chief Minister! 

Kejrival is another hoodwinker. He quit on the issue of Jan Lokpal Bill that was not within his purview! The man is so arrogant that without anything to show for in public life he challenges 3 times CM! He should have administered Delhi & tackled corruption, the slogan on which he came to power.

Somebody need Inform Kejrival & his guru Hazare that dishonesty of intent cannot be tackled by bills.

LJA need to inform the self styled leaders that corruption can be handled only when Lokavidhyadhar Samaj gets actively involved in the progress of India/ Bharat.

LJA cannot afford to remain an island bound by its debates and digging historical facts. This is the best chance for the Samaj to make Modi realize their importance to him and plan to extract  the price for his victory. LJA has to play that Historical role!

A question: How much had M K Gandhi debated & analyzed before he resolved to fight against injustice?
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Amit Basole , Mumbai , 31 May 2014

Perhaps I should clarify. From what little I know, I do not think that the "Gujarat model" has much in common with an LJA vision. The kind of analysis of Gujarat that Surendranji refers to has been done to some extent. At Sanhati we had collected some items on this issue: http://sanhati.com/?s=gujarat. Atul Sood has a book about this also.
Regarding BJP/RSS and lokavidya, I think they have always made overtures in the lokavidya direction. The PPST split in the late 1980s would be a case in point. Others on this list know much more about it than me. But my own feeling is that if the Marxists and socialists of various persuasions have run out of ideas, then the RSS is worse because not only do they have a similar bankruptcy in their economic thinking but their social vision is much more dangerous.
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Surendran , Pune , 1st June 2014

I meant it as a way to come to not get limited by the past perceptions of both BJP and RSS in the context of Modi. The important thing about debating the last 10 years of Gujarat is that PM Modi is 'satisfied with it'. So, I thought that is the 'sankalp' for the next 10 years which he wants. That is, in a sense we already know the upper limit in 2024!  Amit, the bankruptcy you mentioned is evident; but can we pin down the strands of thought that is leading the people today and may be tomorrow? And, then we may also have some questions to create clarity at this juncture:

0. Is there a hidden adherence to "science" in the formulation of lokavidya thought?

1. Knowledge is a "species characteristic" ... seems to be is a strictly modern scientific description/view.

2. In what sense is science of networks and communication technology NOT science?

3. Is the description of science being 'Asuri' replaceable with something without a racial / hindu mythological connotation?

4. What is really the idea of knowledge not returning to Lokavidya, how does something return? Is it meant to denote givjng back, recreating the newer form etc. where is the creativity taking place to achieve that? And return, how slowly, how fast? Knowing this seems to be knowing all!

5. Will the farmer of the plain ( lokavidyadhar samaj) consider the tribal slash/burn cultivators equal in knowledge? Similar question in other hierarchies regarding some functions with defining characteristics of 'science'.

6. The characterization of "todays struggles are being carried out by people NOT educated in Universities, ( as opposed to student and women's movements ...) and that calling for the lokavidya perspective - is this division of the history of struggles accurate or convenient or motivated by different considerations?
more later.
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Lalit Kaul , Hyderabad , 1st June 2014

When Amit says " RSS social vision is much more dangerous", does he mean that caste based divisions will be much more deepened & that other religious groups will be suppressed; or, any problem with Hindutva ? 
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Amit Basole , Mumbai , 2nd June 2014

I think all of the above. As I understand it, the RSS's vision
influenced by the European one nation-one religion-one people model is
deeply antithetical to the lokavidya civilizational ethos. It offers
no way forward on caste/jati, is anti-worker (e.g. role played in
destruction of unions in Mumbai and elsewhere), and is a big step back
on religious pluralism.
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